Vikings Futsal to Host National Championships 2009 – Updated

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Hey Vasquez, what are these FFA conditions you speak of ? As a considerably larger (and better organised) network of futsal clubs/tours/tournaments….what will they be out of ?

F. SALA on July 6th, 2008 5:03 am

In accordance with the Crawford report, Futsal must be incorporated into the organisational framework of the relevant State Federations, which includes QFA and FQ.

From my understanding, QFA will intergrate FQ, but they will not allow Vikings too.

Vikings was built by the personell who were ’supposed’ to be developing futsal in Qld, so everything Vikings have, they owe to the QFA.

I feel sorry for the young players who are now in the Vikings realms who will not play for their Country in FIFA/AFC tournaments.

Yes Vikings have their own Vikings National team, which they play other second rate teams, and is not a standard that kids should be aspiring to, however I do like they still send young teams overseas.

And now Vikings Futsal are hosting their own “Nationals”. WHO else will will host it?

I did laugh but when you put in the same sentance – ‘Organised’ and ‘Vikings’. I think its the first time I have seen that, remembering that its the same people who have been incompetantly running QFA.

And yes a ‘Network’ of sub standard clubs/tours/tournaments is still a ‘Network’ – enjoy. With all the money spent by parents, for their kids to attend these Dal Ponte Acadamies, you would imagine Queensland to just dominate the FFA Nats, but the past few years there has only been a couple of Queensland teams there on the last Friday. Its just and example of the poor standard is coming out of QLD.

But atleast by hosting a Vikings Nationals, a Vikings team should win…

If you can’t get power where you want it – you take it where you can get it … GO VIKINGS .

vasquez on July 6th, 2008 11:24 am

Thanks Vasquez, I cant disagree with anything you say, but you sound so bitter? Did you know the guy running Vikings?

F. SALA on July 6th, 2008 1:42 pm

It is interesting to hear people supporting FFA and THEIR vision of FUTSAL in Australia. Other powerhouses throughout the world, such as Brazil, Spain & Italy, allow futsal specific governing bodies to administer and determine the sport of futsal along side their football governing bodies.

FFA’s long term planing for futsal includes a single national men’s team to attend the AFC Futsal Championships every second year, and a single three and a half day “National” Championship (where 8 out of 14 mens teams came from NSW – last time I checked there were only six states and two territories in this country).

It was less than two years ago that countries like Thailand and China could not come near our National team – Now they’re going to the World Cup and for some inexplicable reasons, that would take longer to explain than this response, to try and justify the reasons we are not. As for the opportunities for our young aspiring futsal players having the pathway to represent Australia at futsal, well let’s just say that the last squad of twelve selected to play for the Futsalroos derived from the following “hotbeds” of AUSTRALIAN development; One player from Sao Paolo – Brazil, two expatriates from the European professional leagues, two from the Vikings system and the remaining seven were represented from ACT (2) and Sydney (5).

The mystifying lack of real support and disrespect for the sport of FUTSAL shown by FFA has only encouraged other major associations, such as Vikings, to take control and governance of their own sport and futures.

Opportunities to travel overseas, play in tournaments (more than one throughout the year), have an extensive calendar of events and established pathways, and follow Futsal without Football coming first should be applauded by any futsal fan.

We should not be privy to what is best for football, or even work around football. We simply need to worry about the development and growth of FUTSAL.

FFA, who by the way is FOOTBALL’s governing body, is now using the newfound wealth opportunities long established via the futsal network and operations, to prolong and attempt to monopolise even further their say in all matters associated with the round ball game – no matter what format it may take.

I personally don’t like the idea of using Futsal revenue to fund FFA initiatives for football, if that means I spend my hard earned money on my children with other associations investing in the development of Futsal then so be it.

FFA…… What have you really done for FUTSAL lately?

NB. Just ask some of the NSW Premier League clubs how they are going to come up with their $25,000.00 entry / bond for their new season.

Seen the Light on July 8th, 2008 4:23 pm

I wasn’t aware that FFA had a vision for Futsal in Australia !!!

Simon on July 11th, 2008 2:55 pm

I agree with SEE THE LIGHT…vaques is a grumpy little boy isn’t he! I know that kids in our area are getting coaching and opportunities provided by Vikings. QFA have not done anything for Futsal here in Qld and to say that it was them who have made Qld Futsal what it is just shows me that vasques has no idea what is happening in Qld. And why is it that just because we do not play in your competition it makes all our players second rate? There are always going to be better players and teams that is what competition is all about…but you are just nasty and uninformed to boot.

Brasil1812 on July 12th, 2008 8:37 am

Brasil1812, you imbo. The people who run the QFA are the same people who run Vikings. Vikings are the commercial arm of the QFA, and you make an excellent point. Why have the QFA done nothing to develop the sport? Because the people running Vikings knew this time would come, so knew it more financially beneficial to have the Vikings name out there, instead of the QFA. DO you get my point or do i need to play a catchy tune on the banjo before you understand. Type in Queensland Futsal Assoc. in google and go to the website. Oh my God, its full of Vikings stuff……. Even there they advertise Vikings Futsal.

Vikings do some things very well, (i don’t know how many times i need to say that) and its getting clearer that I think you have no clue whats happening in QLD.

vasquez on July 12th, 2008 5:48 pm

The “some things ” you say Vikings do very well, do they include…………

Developing Futsal in all states of Australia
Developing Futsal internationally
Running the largest Schools futsal comp. of its kind in the world
Opening regional futsal clubs in country areas
Providing FREE coaching clinics to Australian primary and high schools
Organising great overseas tours
Promoting Futsal as a sport for all, not just elite players
Regular Tournament organisation
Establishing FUTSAL as a sport in its own right (not a football nursery!)
Creating pathways for all futsal players (male and FEMALE) !
Forging great “partnerships” with futsal in Sth America and Asia and Europe
etc
etc
Or were you just paying lip service to Vikings ?

F. SALA on July 12th, 2008 7:58 pm

Now for seen the light…
Brasil, Spain, Italy – Alongside? Nope. Within (please be more correct in your statements). These three nations ALL have their futsal governing body within the football ranks. They do have a dedicated sub-function to look after futsal – but so does Australia.

The difference is that these nations have MORE people playing futsal than football. They can AFFORD to pay for the infrastructure because it is the bulk of their revenue stream, not the minority. They also have a loyal following of supporters who patronise national league matches along with TV sponsorship.
The last time the Australian futsal public was asked to come along to something, we got hundreds. Some perspective on where we sit in the world, and even within our own economy is required.

The long term plan is a little more complex then how you put it, the national team has already travelled three times this year, along with playing (some meaningful and some less so) friendlies in the last 12 months. They are planning on sending a team to the AFC Club Championships next year … and if there was anything else to send teams to, they would do so. Futsal as a sport is still developing and in Asia there isn’t a great deal for the FFA can do.

Over the last four years Thailand have beaten us regularly (again with the incorrect statements-check the 04 World Championships). They also have a professional national league. China too have major resources to plough into futsal and have been doing so, including the hiring of a Brazillian coach and running a national league.

We don’t have a WOMEN’S national league yet. We only JUST have a Youth national league. Football development in this country is miles behind – forget futsal development.

Im not real sure what your point about the Futsalroos makeup. For anyone to be eligible, you have to hold an Australian passport. I don’t see anyone complaining about all the “foreigners” in the National Men’s team…
I agree that there could be more support for futsal, or women’s football, or junior football … but change is starting now on ALL Of those fronts. Historically the past has not been a futsal purists ideal world, but Vikings going it alone serves no real purpose in the realms of development (which is what your banging on about here) – it is only useful for raking in the cash.

How many teams do the FFA send away when there is nothing meaningful coming up? I can answer that – NONE!! ALL of Australia’s football teams are put together for trials for upcoming tournaments or tournament matches. Because we are in Asia now, there are more matches for football stretched across the year, so the teams gong away are more visible. Futsal have ONE tournament a year. The team travelled three times for the last one as well has hosting Malaysia here. That’s consistent with the FFA’s National team policy.

What has the FFA done lately?
Invested heavily to try and get the national team to the World Cup – the only tournament open to them at the moment. Oh, and running a successful nationals every year, Oh, and planning for the team qualification for the club world cup … oh, and reaching out to run referee and instructor courses in other states.

The $25,000 is nothing to do with the FFA.

F SALA,
>Developing Futsal in all states of Australia
>Running the largest Schools futsal comp. of its kind in the world
>Opening regional futsal clubs in country areas
>Providing FREE coaching clinics to Australian primary and high schools
>Promoting Futsal as a sport for all, not just elite players
>Forging great “partnerships” with futsal in Sth America and Asia and Europe

Absolutely. No doubt. They do these things well.

But there are plenty of FOOTBALL clubs that do this for football without whinging that the FFA doesn’t do enough.

And no one is saying the FFA have done heaps in the past … but since the Crawford report, there has been a restructure. They are working progressively to make sure nothing fails. Futsal is currently becoming a focus.

I can’t help it that Vikings have decided to let their patience run out now – at the worst possible moment.

>Developing Futsal internationally

Nope. I don’t see them “developing” anything internationally except a fatter wallet.

>Organising great overseas tours

Depends on your definition of great. They certainly aren’t at cost. Again, so do many football clubs, but you don’t see them whinging that the FFA don’t.

>Regular Tournament organisation

In Queensland, what choice does anyone have? There are plenty of “regular” tournaments in other states that are FFA sanctioned. The FFA only runs elite tournaments for ALL of their disciplines. I don’t see an “FFA Northern West Metro Brisbane schools championships”. I don’t see this as an issue.

>Establishing FUTSAL as a sport in its own right (not a football nursery!)

Yeah, because that’s such a big deal? There are so many players the world over being “stolen” out of futsal to play football … NOT.

>Creating pathways for all futsal players (male and FEMALE) !

Pathway? You have to be kidding! If you can AFFORD IT you can GO! Even kids from other states take the user pays pathway.

There are no true “pathways” in futsal because there aren’t that many levels … in Vikings or FFA. You play locally. You can play in a state or national titles. In NSW you can play in a premier league, in all other states you can whistle. In Qld you can play in the Vikings National League.

If you are in AMF (which is were Vikings are heading), you can play in women’s world cup. WOW! such a HUGE divide in the levels of development. You’re having a laugh!!!

most of those things they do (not necessarily well), but my POINT, and again, I will type slow, is that this should have been done under the auspices of the QFA, the FFA’s arm for Futsal in QLD and which they were being paid to do.
Why have they allowed the QFA to comply with the Crawford Report but not the Vikings. Why are Vikings breaking away from the FFA, and going to alone? The only answer is Power and Money at the top.

vasquez on July 12th, 2008 11:27 pm

Hey Vasquey, I asked the things you said Viking do do well, now you say they dont do things necessarilly well ? You dont even believe your own propaganda do you???
Futsal is currently becoming a (FFA) focus ! Thats a laugh, reminds me of a story about a dog and a manger?
You are so obviously a football sort of guy (girl)…no idea really about futsal !
FFA nationals ? it was running bigger and better 20 years ago under the then separate Futsal controlling body.
Worst possible moment for Viking to run out of patience ? (Now I’m typing quickly for you, before I start cracking up laughing again !)……My youngest daughter has waited patiently for the FFA to do ANYTHING for futsal ( she gets the pension soon) !
Please explain your power and money trip ?
Who were those cheap jibes aimed at? (Tell us all what you know?)
Why are Vikings breaking away from the FFA (as you put it) Have Vikings been invited to play in the FFA nationals? Sounds to me like they are being pushed out?
In your comparisons of fact tell me how many full time people are working on futsal within Australia for the FFA to ensure nothing fails ?
Oh yes if there is room please list all of the FFA sanctioned futsal competitions in other states ? (I’m sure they’d love to know)

F. SALA on July 13th, 2008 4:54 am

Vasquez, when putting things in writing its a good idea to make sure your facts are right.

In Brazil futsal is run by CBFS whose headquarters are in Forteleza in the north. CBF who run football are based in Rio. They are two separate organisations who elect separate boards and employ separate staff. CBF passes onto CBFS the rights to manage futsal in the country.

guillerme on July 13th, 2008 9:39 am

Vasquez….. where do you get off shooting your mouth off without knowing the real facts? How can anybody take your comments seriuosly? Give up while you’re still behind.

Seen the Light on July 14th, 2008 9:13 am

I think I have repeated said they do schools well. They run many competitions. They expose kids who want to pay to overseas futsal and let them pay to see other countries. I think they even send the occassional kid at their some of their own expense to Brazil on exchange. All very good initiatives. Good to see you are ACTUALLY paying attention to what I have said and are thoroughly reading it … ranting about how hard done by you are ..

I wouldnt mind hearing about the story involving a dog and a manger (would probably make more sense the other rubbish your talking about)..

We’ve had a decent men’s national league for football for 3 seasons. An absolute changing of the guard that has almost immediately changed MANY years of rubbish national leagues in this country.

You are giving the new administration no (real) time to get the ball rolling – and pull out the violins if you like and talk about the years you have “wasted” but when the FFA stood for Fustsal Federation of Australia we spent the last 10 years of it languishing in debt with no national or international programs of any real merit and certainly no overall development except for World Cups. This is a new ball game whether you want to accept it or not. Let’s see what the FFA have done when they have been in direct charge of futsal as long as Futsal Queensland/Vikings have had open slather in Qld.

Why would I be a football guy? Unlike you, I can see the responsibility of our national body, controlling Football, Futsal and Beach Soccer extending beyond just one team or cause and realise they have far less in the way of resources and man power than ANY other nation the “pro-Vikings” people have cited in any of their arguements.

For the record, I have very little to do with football. The reason I keep refering to football is because of the reference about futsal resources being spent on football. I am just trying showing that the FFA is being consistent in their policy to all of their national teams. They are not neglecting futsal on that front.

BIgger Nationals 20 years ago (you drongo) HA!! By bigger, I assume you mean “more teams”? “More participants”? 20 years ago, the Futsal nationals had a club section, a regional section and state section. Name me *any* FFA competition that does that?

I would almost bet that if you take the state section alone (because – hey wow – that’s the bit the FFA is responsible for in truth) it is actually bigger than it was 20 years ago. There are certainly more age groups and FAR more girls involved (the little hobby horse you guys have trotted out).

And as for participants – in the old days, players from “state” stayed all week and played in all three sections so while there were extras who came in on the weekend, it wasn’t really many more participants, it was moving them around into new teams.

And where were the WORST nationals in recent memory held (by most people’s estimations) Queensland … run by Futsal Queensland/Vikings. They ran a pretty good schools nationals several years previous to that though.

You should have given your daughter better advice and her contribute to a Super fund instead of relying on the pension, but as you so RIGHTLY pointed out – the FFA has really only had control of futsal for under a decade (with most of the first part of that spent under a well publicised, mismanaged structure). So that “pension”; and doing something for your daughter? Blame that independant futsal body in place BEFORE the FFA that mismanged itself into financial ruin.

Like any futsal person I acknowledge that futsal people have done it tough for a very long time (some football people would say the same). But the new FFA management team have started to put the house in order and it won’t be a quick process. But it’s obviously happening. The A-league and national youth league are the start.

And as more FUTSAL tournaments come on line in Asia and through FIFA, the FFA will dedicate resources to those areas. Quick question for you – seeing as you know everything – How many times did the Matildas go overseas on tours before they had any FIFA or confederation tournaments to play in?

Explaining your power and money trip ?

IF Vikings were interested in developing the sport – and that was their primary motivation – TRULY developing the sport and making it better for all Australians (as they are trying to do setting up everywhere … obviously), wouldn’t they be trying to be involved in the FFA push forward that has started? Wouldn’t they be lending their “expertise” to being on the ground floor of adding their resources to the FFAs and building a sport where there participants could go to a FIFA world cup?

If they didn’t care about money and power, they’d come into the FFA structure and continue to do what they do now under FFQ. They ONLY explanation for them not doing so is the belief that they will suddenly have less control (i.e. power) or less cash (i.e. money)

Pushed out (another drongo comment). RIIIIIGHT! (I hear those violins again) That’s why FFQ have asked for them to come into the fold. That’s why they are trying to get that expertise to stay so that we have a unified futsal population – which, may I add would have more sway at the top levels, not less if splintered.

And Vikings invited to the nationals? My local club didn’t get an invite. Maybe I should have a whinge.

OOOOOHHHH!!! That’s right, the FFA invite their members (i.e. FNSW, FFV, CF, FFSA, FW …) – as far as I am aware the FFQ (like the FF in every other state) has been invited.

Sorry … “nothing fails” … what are you talking about? The FFA have got a tiny full time staff and I believe there is only one working with futsal. We have one national team for futsal – attending one AFC comp a year. How many people would you LIKE the FFA to throw at that? Many people inside the FFA work a number of jobs from what I know. Maybe Vikings should say they’ll supply the FFA with a futsal worker and pay their wage for them?

Or would you just like the FFA to forget every other person they have a responsibility to and concentrate all their resources on futsal?

Here I was thinking that (like football) grassroots development is in the hands of the clubs and state development in the hands of the states. The FFA is currently re-writing futsal coaching and refereeing courses which, like football, will be delivered down the links of the football chain.

Here’s a question for you. What is the FFA’s annual revenue stream from futsal?

The FFA, directly run nationals, clubs and schools. Just like they do for football.

Any local, state or regional tournament run by FNSW, FFV, FFSA, FW, CF or FFQ are also – by association – FFA competitions.

You can play futsal 7 nights a week in Sydney if you so desire or 6 nights of the week in the ACT.

And yes, Futsal Queensland run a million tournaments. It’s a credit to their money making prowess. All the “development” put them in, what, two nationals finals at last year’s nationals? If I was your daughter, I’d be more concerned about you banging your head against a brick wall investing in “Vikings” futsal – because developing a champion is more the exception than the rule.

Oh, and I’ve been to a World Cup before … yeah, at my local rebound centre. At least they called it a world cup. I guess anyone can do that now-a-days.

Also where does the name Vikings come from? I know this answer.

Give up what whilst Im behind, the only thing behind is QLD as far as skill and development in Futsal. The results are on the board at a National level. Argue that one.

vasquez on July 16th, 2008 1:11 pm

I must admit that comments I made did get a little confusing to Vasquez…When I said that the QFA did nothing for Futsal in Queensland I was referring to the Queensland Football Association (FQ now) not the Queensland Futsal Assciation. Up until January 2008 the FQ were happy as was the FFA to have the official body for Futsal in Qld to be the Queensland Futsal Association(QFA)…so what development was done was done soley by the QFA/Vikings group. As you do not live in Qld Vasquez….it may pay you to understand that the Football clubs here do not want to be involved with Futsal so what do our players do if there is no other body here in Regional Qld prepared to offer administration of the sport. The parents do not see it as a money pit for them and there kids are getting training both at school and weekend club training by expert coaches from Brisbane at no cost. These coaches work for Vikings Futsal and travel long distances to get to our kids to train them…I call this development and at no charge! These kids then have opportunities to travel interstate or even overseas should they wish. If Vikings were not here in our region then the kids would not be able to play at all as there are no other people prepared to do it including FQ.. As you may know or not know Futsal is still not accepted as a designated school sport…so Vikings run one of the biggest school tournalents in early March each year…and it is the only one in town…so where else can the players and schools go? FQ aren’t interested in it. Also each region have their own school titles as well…so you believe that Vikings should leave the sport to the official bodies….well they are not interested in doing it so what is the answer ? Either our kids play the game or they do not it is as simple as that…Vikings are providing a service to our kids here in the country that would not be possible if they were not here….and each year the standard is getting better from coaching and more tournaments for both school and club teams….That to me is putting it back to the players and developing the sport and isn’t that a good thing for kids to be playing the game. If it is left to the FQ to do it then our kids would have to play another sport as we have no choice in the matter…so why do you condem Vikings for bring the sport to the people who want to play it????

Brasil1812 on July 20th, 2008 1:35 am

sorry one more thing…you(Vasquez) just laugh at the Women’s World Cup that Vikings are sending a team to…of which there are two current Matildas who are members…what else is on offer to our ladies….oh I know we will just sit back and wait til the FFA send a team to ????? dont hold your breath ladies the FFA are not even looking at you for rep tours, you will have to play in the veterans teams if they do anything at all….Developement at its best…not…You are not sexist are you? Shouldn’t the ladies be treated the same as the men and have opportunites as well?????

Brasil1812 on July 20th, 2008 1:44 am

Vasquez you poor misguided world cup rebound loving person ! One national team = one FFA futsal person and he /she is developing the sport of futsal in our rather large country ????? FFA only had futsal for ten years ? So of course nothing has happened yet….but theyre working on it ! FFA have a futsal commission but no futsal specialists on it ? Yeah that makes sense ! FFA working on a referee and coaching course for futsal ? Good starting point after 10 years !
I have winners trophies from the nationals- but it was easy for me to drive from my Sydney home to training and to Canberra for the Nationals. I salute Vikings for DEVELOPING the sport around the country and at times real country areas where there are few opportunities.

Developing the sport means thousands of kids having fun while they learn and play NOT WINNING A $5 PLASTIC TROPHY but as you probably havent ever won one you look at this differently !
If we and the FFA had any brains (god forbid) they would appoint VIKINGS to run the sport for them ! The sport we love would grow and prosper and the FFA would look good !
….Oh yes and congratulations for knowing where the word VIKINGS comes from… I had somehow never considered you an educated person….my apologies !

F.SALA on July 22nd, 2008 6:29 pm

I’m pleased to see that someone has put vasquez back in line.

I’m not sure where he is coming from with reference to the FFA doing so much for Futsal. Since they have been onboard they got rid of the one guy who did any good for the sport, George Dick, and gave his role to someone who was in charge of marketing or ironing or football or coffee. This is common around the world with many countries Football associations doing the same. Lip service and no more.

China only has a national league and a mens side, Thailand have a national mens and womens side but paid for by a millionaire no developement. The USA select their national team from MISL (rebound) Canada recently canned their national side and will hold a 6 a side rebound tournament instead. This is the apathy Football has towards Futsal.

The FFA have decided to send the mens side to asian tournaments every 2 years, no womens program and certainly no youth – great development. They canned the national schools and to be honest were half hearted in their efforts to run a Nationals. Futsal in Australia was at it’s best when run by Futsal people.

Vasquez has a strange top down mentality, create the elite and they will come. The one thing I’ve noticed about the Vikings setup is they are all about mass participation, something this country needs with our kids getting fatter. So what if they are charging for the experience and then reinvesting it back into Futsal. What sport dosn’t want to make money – Have a look around at all the sports clubs and organisations getting in financial trouble

I hope they come to Sydney

toepoke on July 23rd, 2008 5:51 pm

vikings futsal nationals hey??? .

Who actually cares what you do, and more importantly what names you dream up and give to your pathetic tournaments! I mean, lets look at how viking teams have faired over the past couple FFA National Futsal Championships… have you won more than one title? You’re hardly the powerhouse association that you make yourselves out to be. Anyone who attended the 2006 Nationals at the Gold Coast will no doubt be in agreeance with me here… the incompetence of the vikings from a managerial and playing perspective was on show for all to see……. if your 2009 ‘nationals’ are anything like your usual performances, you may as well call your nationals the ‘2009 comedy festival of australian futsal’.

But in all seriousness, at least hosting your own version of the nationals will result in some long overdue victories for vikings – that’s assuming you can overcome the other ’states’ your website claims are participating in the event! Its one thing to create your own illegitimate Nationals, but its quite another to suggest players in every state of the country are stupid and gullible enough to become involved in your circus… I would love to hear who are the participants from the ACT??? None in Canberra has any knowledge of this…. perhaps you’ve recruited eight donkeys to come and play, but you can hardly call this a serious contingent from a state federation.

People can see through your propaganda and lies…. we the futsal community know that the vikings are a private business and no have interest other than enhancing the bottom line. Qld Football will be sending teams to the FFA Nationals, and is only a matter of time before viking players wake up to themselves and join an association that is run in accordance with FFA and FIFA protocols.

bob magee on July 29th, 2008 12:42 pm

bob magee….you sound bitter, hats off if they are trying things that the FFA cant do or dont do properly.
Maybe if there was a unified outfit, then Viking can make their money as well as contribute to increasing the profile of the game.
We should focus on getting a National competition up and running…. and not throw insults to each other….

John on July 29th, 2008 5:11 pm

Bitter!!!! personally I think it’s more envy.

My understanding of Vikings Futsal in Queensland is they are a club management structure who affiliate back to Queensland Futsal. They go out start clubs and try to get as many people as possible playing. Looking at the numbers they have I think they are successful.

As for money, what sporting organisation ISN’T trying to make money. Poor old Bobby Magee is obviously envious of how successful Vikings has become not bitter. with regard to Vikings running a tournament just for Vikings players, I don’t know what the problem is. This sort of thing happens all the time in sport, I know there is a serb football tournament just for serb clubs in Australia.

If only FFA will tap into what the Vikings do instead of wasting time trying to discredit them then the FFA would have more time to spend on Futsal activities…. maybe!

toepoke on July 30th, 2008 9:15 am

VOTE 1 BOBBY!!!!

Rex on July 30th, 2008 11:54 am

vote 1 bobby….. all the way baby – stick it to them!

lizard man on July 30th, 2008 1:09 pm

Thank you bobby for finally putting the vikings in their place….it’s about time someone stuck it to vikings and old al miller..it’s about time they learn to get in line and stop making profits…i’ll be laughing like a shark when this so called ‘nationals’ fails miserably

buckeroo on July 30th, 2008 1:55 pm

Why does there need to be a Crusade against the Vikings?

I can’t really see what all the fuss is about here. Have the Vikings personally offended you guys in the past?

As for ’stop making profits’, whos to say $$ being given to the FFA via Rego’s is being put to any good use at all. The whole reason Vikings are doing well (ignoring the potential skill level difference) is because the FFA have taken money from Futsal rego’s and done basically NOTHING for Futsal this whole time.

Even though its NSW focussed, the Balls N All Blog thing is a great example of the official guys doing bugger all for the sport.

Dave on July 30th, 2008 2:42 pm

As a parent of a Vikings player I am astonished at the crap that goes on here on Futsal forums. You are all hiding behind computers and words of envy. If it wasnt for Vikings Country NSW wouldnt even know what Futsal was. NSW Footbal/Futsal was contacted on many occasions about starting futsal in our area and time and time again we were told that we where to far away from Sydney. The last time I looked on the map NSW was BIGGER than Sydney. Clearly VIkings put their “Profit” to much better use because they can afford to send paid staff to the country to develope the game.

“GO VIKINGS”

One last question “Are Country NSW kids less important that Sydney kids”

Am Ased on July 30th, 2008 4:51 pm

Bobby Magee is another clown who thinks success is measured by the number of $5 plastic trophies in the cabinet.
Hiding behind a FIFA, FFA, AFC facade is doing nothing for futsal in Australia.(Oh yes Bobby- FIFA have a much higher opinion of Vikings than you do….but there again they probably have a high opinion of you!)
Dont be alarmed when you find out the “unofficial” national titles run by Vikings are bigger than the ‘ oppositions’ ! variation .Dont be surprised to find out that all of the participating States/countrys in the Vikings tournament enter true futsal teams (not soccer wannabees).
National schools titles last year saw some 2500 Australian school teams enter the largest futsal competition of its kind in the world= yes another VIKINGS success…how many teams entered the “official FFA schools tournament ?
I repeat, Vikings develop and promote futsal at all levels right around the country. If youre truly happy with your local futsal organisation that is fine, dont knock what you dont fully understand.

Presuming your organisation is as successful as you imply (you have all the best playersetc etc!) Please enlarge on your recent FIFA World Cup victories ???? Ive been away and missed the news ! lol

F.SALA on July 31st, 2008 7:42 am

so true – bobby gun!!!! vote 1

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lizard man on July 31st, 2008 11:54 am

Can anyone tell me why the Vikings are running their tournament in Sydney? We all know that 90% of viking players are from QLD. Since when did Sydney become part of QLD? Maybe i’m just a sceptic, but perhaps adding a bit of ‘fat’ into the transport expenses for the qld viking players will help the ‘development of futsal’??? clearly you have no idea Toejam – open those eyes.

Am ased – this forum is great – it allows for the truth to be spoken. Players and parents have a right to choose, or just be gullible in your case… its ironic that you suggest people here are hiding behind computers, names etc – and yet do you realise that the organisation you speak so fondly of (vikings) has hidden and operated for years under the disguise of QLD Futsal?? now why would that be???

Brian

Brian Javman on July 31st, 2008 12:24 pm

lets face it…. country kids are far less important than city kids…there is no denying that

mike hunt on July 31st, 2008 5:50 pm

has anyone ever heard of the arctic white wolf….
it’s the top of the food chain, fast, strong, smart and can defend for itself…however it doesn’t because it realises its going to be better off it works as part of the pack….
the pack the kills the renegades, to assure that their system works…

..and in context, yes..vikings do have alot of players and have spread their dirty seed even as far as new zealand… but in all honesty..it’s obvious they are only concerned for the bottom line…

and as an ex-representative player and FFA national champion, i just want to finally add…i wouldn’t send my dog to a vikings nationals…half the vikings players don’t even own legitimate futsal shoes…

if anything i’m glad it’s coming to this…because the best vikings players will move to ffa sanctioned activities so they can be in contention for austrailan teams and progression in their futsal careers….hence, all the woeful vikings country teams will be long gone

Jack Tanner on July 31st, 2008 6:08 pm

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