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Futsalroo Qualification
Greg Giovenali on Fox sports was a fantastic boost for our sport in terms of coverage and exposure in the pre-tournament frenzy. Would’ve been nice if they could fit some futsalroo highlights in one of their 48 repetitive daily bulletins. Being able to watch the games via asian live streaming online was fantastic though!
Well done to Steven Knight and all involved in qualifying for the Futsal World Cup. What an absolutely fantastic achievement! A couple of interesting squad selections (Keith, Wright, no Adeli, no fulton?) but they did the job and we can be nothing but proud of the boys and the efforts of the whole travelling party. You really put Australia back on the futsal map!
F-League Review
What a fantastic weekend for Australian Futsal, the first series a huge success for some and complete failure for others. Overall Melbourne did a fantastic job hosting. The referees were great for most of the tournament with the odd card happy moments and at times making some poor decisions, however they managed the stop clock fantastically well. Matches were played on time, and bar St Albans playing at 8:00am and 6:00pm the same day, the scheduling wasn’t too bad.
Some of the highlights included; teams playing fifth man in a variety of ways, some of the goals were outstanding, the goalkeeping performances were good, bad and ugly and the Melbourne crowds coming out in numbers. The music was also flawless. For the neutral the back to back games just rolled on one after the other a real weekend feast of futsal.
One burning question that hasn’t been addressed is the first past the post situation. Its evident teams will have no chance of finishing first potentially after the second series. What will this mean for the remaining weekends? Will clubs travel if there is ‘nothing’ to play for as such? Do finals for the top four ensure teams participate right down to the last game? Going forward what will be better, hypothetically if Dural won the league by the fourth series will dead rubbers be a nightmare for organisers and fans alike? Finals are entrenched in Australian sports culture, futsal rant is all for acknowledging the team on top but thinks Finals should be reintroduced for the guaranteed integrity of a competition still in its infancy.
Team entry fees of $5000 don’t come easy either. Where is all that money going?? Clubs need some sort of financial reward for winning competitions like these, large entry fees should equate to some form of prize money for the champions surely. Players & Clubs can’t afford entry fees like this forever… Just look at clubs like Maccabi who pulled the pin due to financial constraints, and the complete disappearance of Victoria’s Inner City.
1st Dural Warriors
Dural lived up to all expectations opening up their campaign by smashing favourites East Coast Heat 7:3 in the opening day. Dural really set the standard and look the team to beat. They really epitomize what a futsal club should be all about, with Giovenali, Seeto & Basger joining the fold who can stop them? They easily accounted for the Boomerangs & Jaguars and find themselves sitting on top with three wins from three games. Rob Varela will be delighted with the teams performance going into the 2nd series of competition. They play an exciting brand of futsal and were a joy to watch.
2nd Vic Vipers
The dark horse of the competition went about their business swiftly and soundly without really making a splash. They too smashed the Jaguars in the opening day of competition followed by some handy victories against the Boomerangs and Parramatta. Milton Sakkos has made a fantastic return from national futsal exile; he has a sharp and refined outfit with De Moraes making influential guest appearances alongside a list of boys who look hungry for success. The Vipers lead the Victorian contingent that could cause a few upsets and maybe even find themselves top of the pile after five series.
3rd St Albans Strikers
Last year’s runners up are back bigger and better than ever. With a squad filled with Victorian state and club representatives, youth and experience, St Albans mean business. Rob Lakovski’s men notched up series one comprehensive victories over Parramatta & Melbourne Heart. They were unlucky not to take three points off East Coast on day two with danger man Vadim Mazurski going down injured early in the game. Two wins and a draw sees them third and in a good position to have a crack at the title. They have represented Victoria well at home, it will be interesting to see if the full squad make the trip to Sydney and if they can maintain there good start in series two. They look a lot sharper and smarter this time around.
4th East Coast Heat
The ‘All Star Team’ caused a stir in the F-League build up by recruiting players from three states, which other clubs were not too happy about. It sounded like a genius inventive idea at the time but doubts were raised about how the team would gel if they hadn’t trained prior to the tournament. The team started well in the first half of its opener against Dural but went downhill fast. They were embarrassed by Dural in the end; they struggled to score against St Albans, dejected to get away with a point. Jamie Amendolia’s side looked disjointed and divided and struggled to beat the amateur Jaguars who had been beaten comprehensively in its previous two games. The team looks dependent on Chris Zeballos & without him firing it’s hard to see them challenging those above them. Sitting just outside the top three Heat will need to get their act together in the next series if they are to mount a serious title challenge in their debut season.
5th Parramatta Blues
After finishing a lowly 5th in the first edition of the F-League the blues have bolstered their stocks with futsalroo duo Lachlan Wright & Danny Ngaluafe. Both reportedly earning $600 a weekend for their efforts! This didn’t stop the St Albans Strikers smashing them 4-0 in the opening game, other than hitting the post and a few neat saves from Brackenrig the Blues didn’t even look like scoring. They amended that issue the following day with a 6-0 drubbing of Melbourne Heart. They struggled in their third game however after a Fernando inspired Vipers got over the line in a 5-2 victory. Parramatta has the funds, personnel and ambition to do well and could spring a few upsets in Series two.
6th Boomerangs
After finishing last in the inaugural F-League season word on the street was that they would come out firing this edition. For a side brimming with talent like Fogarty, Flannigan & Adeli last year it was a complete failure from the solo club from the ACT. They got off to a winning start this year in a hard fought 2-1 win over unknown quantity Melbourne Heart. Things went downhill quickly though with a 4-1 loss to the Vipers later that evening. An 8-3 loss to Dural the following day didn’t help the cause. Number one goalkeeper Konstantinou taking to the court as a player after Cattanach went down injured the night before. Angelo’s squad down to bare bones for the second consecutive F-League! There were smiles galore, almost as if the side was just happy to be a part of the competition! Unless Heart & Jaguars improve hastily it will be hard to see Boomerangs finish higher or lower than 6th.
7th Melbourne Heart
Nobody knew what to expect from the Melbourne Heart, but regardless it was an exciting move from the A-league franchise. The team forayed into unchartered territory, from Football to Futsal, led by a largely unkown coach Edgard Vatcky. It was an exciting development that the whole futsal community tuned into, SBS covered the story and it was just the boost the second edition of the F-League needed. Disappointingly, the only similarity between football and futsal teams was the playing kits. There was no heart in the performances, no excitement in the brand of futsal, no crowds, no sign of the Melbourne Heart football department on or off the court. They started with a 2-1 loss to Boomerangs after showing rare glimpses of talent (largely from interstate ring ins). Bizarre substitutions and play from Heart was made even more laughable when one of the best goalkeepers in Australian Dianosh found himself spending more time on the pine then on the court! Inevitably things got worse for the amateur Heart, a 6-0 thumping from Parammata & a 5-3 loss to St Albans sees the Heart without a point on the table. If it wasn’t for the Jaguars the Heart would be last. Let’s hope that they get better fast, it would be hard to see the club support an abysmal futsal team for consecutive seasons and could deter other A-league clubs from doing the same.
8th Jaguars
After Maccabi’s last minute withdrawal from this year’s edition leaving the competition in limbo, up stepped a fourth Victorian club the Jaguars to fill in. After scoring four goals and conceding twenty four goals it’s needless to say the club is winless and in dire straits. Little was known about the club before the opening weekend, but it was clear how the club would fare after it received an 8-1 annihilation from the Vipers. To add insult to injury the formidable Dural smashed the Jaguars 10-1 in the following game. In fairness to the Jaguars they have quite a young and inexperienced team but they just don’t cut the mustard to play in a state competition let alone a national one. Some are questioning whether 7 teams would’ve sufficed given their abysmal showings. They need to change things fast with the second series on the horizon if they wan’t to avoid finishing last in their debut season.
The Dural Challenge
http://futsal4all.com/2012/05/dural-warriors-futsal-challenge-nsw/
Absolutely fantastic idea, NOT! What an absolute joke from one of Australia’s more prominent and successful clubs. Zero takers to this ridiculous challenge really sums it up. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your successful club, but this is just plain silly.
Lets breakdown the objectives of this bizarre concept:
To expose football players to the value of futsal? Hmmmmm I don’t think so unless you’re talking about financial value if they win! Unlikely given how good Dural is!
Establish futsal as a recognised indoor sport in Australia? Futsal is a recognised indoor sport anyway this stupid challenge isn’t going to help that. You’d be better off dropping off pamphlets in letter boxes.
Provide an opportunity to experience playing international rules etc: Well this seems like the only credible objective. But isn’t that what the F-League is all about? What are the F-League doing that isn’t international?
Establish a low cost method of enabling futsal players to be financially rewarded: Hmm getting futsal players to play other futsal players! Sounds sustainable and long term to me.
Build a marketable product for sponsors tv yadda yadda yadda: Random teams playing Dural for prize money in potentially six games hardly a marketable product.
If there are more than 6 teams wishing to challenge, first come first served!! There hasn’t been ONE yet has there?? Don’t flatter yourselves though, the Dural juggernaut is definitely beatable, just look at their results in the NSWPL over the years & the F-league last year. I think futsal teams and clubs have better things to do then spend a Friday night gambling on a futsal game. Things like training and saving for real competitions and matches of substance like participating in their local comps and the F-League.
The flyer for the competition leaves a lot to be desired too.
Mseeto then comments “interesting to note no challengers given the f-league poll”. Mmm what’s interesting? That some people in the community tipped other clubs than Dural? That nobody wants to take part in your bizarre challenge? That as good as Dural is the idea is just plain silly. The challenge is a futsal farce from start to finish.
22 Comments
Jun 13, 2012, 11:28 am
I must commend you futsal rant, pretty much spot on with everything you wrote.
Excellent points regarding entry fees and prizemoney, especially given the league has a sponsor. And also inner city has in a way reappeared, metamorphosising into a hybrid Sydney city/ pascoe vale team, with less expenses for the two major people involved. Very clever way of getting v league players to skip the mfl for the better perceived f league. I am sure this loophole will be shut next year!
Jun 13, 2012, 4:04 pm
Yep u pretty much summed up everything! F League was such a great boost for the sport.. The organisation is there but the quality of teams was a bit of a let down.. The lack of preparation from teams may also have contributed. I also agree that finals should have been played. Very poor decision not to play it..
I would have also liked to see the teams not mixed up with so many players from other states… would of made games a bit more passionate if it were teams from different states facing off against each other.
Jun 13, 2012, 5:07 pm
Hi Futsal Tragic. Re The Dural Challenge
So you think the F League Series 1 was fantastic for Australian Futsal but the Dural challenge was a farce. Would it surprise you to learn that the F League had links to a Dural challenge?
In 2009, I had a meeting with FFA together with Frank Rossi, the Chairman of the FNSW Futsal Standing Committee with a proposal to start a national Futsal League. In short, the FFA position was “we do not have the financial or personnel resources at the moment, but if a member state such as FNSW were to start one, we would be willing to endorse it and if it was successful, we could, in the future, take it over”.
Frank and I proposed that we needed to talk to the other states and, with FFA’s and FNSW’s backing, a meeting was organised to coincide with the 2010 FFA nationals in Canberra. All states had representatives at this meeting except for Tasmania and the Northern Territories. Of the states present, only NSW, Vic and ACT believed that they had clubs who may be able to participate. During 2010, Troy McColl was appointed FNSW Futsal Manager and a meeting was held with him in an attempt to start a National League. Due to time and personnel constraints, Troy declined to run it as a FNSW event but had no objections to Dural hosting the challenge. He gave an assurance to Frank and I that he would endeavour to have a National League in 2011. The 2010 Dural Warriors challenge had 2 teams from Victoria, 2 teams from ACT and 4 teams from NSW comprising of the St. Albans Strikers Men’s team, Quake Men’s team, Boomerangs Men’s team, Dural Men’s team and Bayside Pirates Women’s team, Boomerangs Women’s team, Quake Women’s team and Dural Women’s team. This challenge was played over one weekend and was played on an international court with stop clock and 4 referees.
In March 2011, in an effort to give Futsal a higher exposure to the football community, and Dural players more experience in playing to international rules, Dural issued a Cross Code challenge to the football community. This was endorsed by Troy and he sent the challenge out to all football clubs playing in the FNSW Premier League, Super League, Division 1 and 2. Although it created quite a number of enquiries, only 2 football teams eventually took up the challenge. During this time, Damian Briggs, who by then have taken over from Troy as FNSW Futsal manger, proposed the 2011 F League. This comprised 6 men’s team of which 3 had participated in the Dural challenge. Full credit to Damian and Chris Ryan from FFV for the way Series 1 was run.
I do not believe that Futsal is yet a well recognised sport. That is why Futsal has always struggled with Football being given preference by players of both. None of the Dural players are paid to play Futsal. They do it for the love of it and a small financial reward should they win a challenge should not be sneered at. I believe that the more exposure Futsal have, the better for the sport. It also makes it easier to get sponsorship.
Making personal attacks is okay as I like a good argument but at least have the courage to put your name to those attacks so everyone knows where you are coming from.
Jun 13, 2012, 6:03 pm
Ronalso wrote:
“…And also inner city has in a way reappeared, metamorphosising into a hybrid Sydney city/ pascoe vale team, with less expenses for the two major people involved. Very clever way of getting v league players to skip the mfl for the better perceived f league. I am sure this loophole will be shut next year!”
Ronalso if you look at the list of Inner City players from the last edition of the F-League you will find that representatives find themselves in not only Heat (Caro, Silva, Simsek, Hussein, Polati), but Melbourne Heart (Rasoulzadeh, Hasanikoo), St Albans (Mazursky, Avram,) & Vipers (Fernando). Maccabi folding also meant that Dural got Basger & Heart got Lev Lewis.
I think it’s worth noting that Heat also has some QLD representatives that might not otherwise have had a team to play in which I believe is fantastic. Whether Heat is covering costs or the players are paying there own way I’m not sure, but Heart also have some QLD representatives too from what I’ve been told.
I’m not sure of what you mean by skip mfl, I thought Inner City play in the mfl. Does FNSW require F-league teams to play in there federation competition or is it an FFV regulation? Do ffv have any say in who participates in the f-league? How can they? I think the f-league is better perceived because it is better much like the NSWPL is better then the MFL. I followed mfl results not long ago and there were 20-0 drubbings, teams starting a season then disappearing from the ladder and from memory St Albans organised a bus and commuted one evening to be sent home because the team did a no show. The two inner city teams finished 1 and 2 and played off in the final. What does this say about the other ‘clubs’.
I think VIC has tried to copy the NSW set up for years but just can’t get it right for whatever reason. Sure the open mens team have had a good couple of seasons but i’m not entirely sure that was due to the mfl in any way shape or form. And the NSW mens teams beat them anyway.
I don’t know what loophole you speak of, Heart & Paramatta both have players from other states, its not nationals where you SHOULD be from your own state, Heat recruited a bunch of futsal players nationwide fairly to participate in the F-League and what had the futsal scene shaking at the knees initially has some people just laughing at them now.
Jun 13, 2012, 6:08 pm
Observer I agree the quality of teams was dissapointing.
Apart from the top three sides the rest were really lacking any cohesiveness, structure, uniqueness & passion to win. Difficult access to courts and appropriate times to train don’t help futsal clubs but it really did seem like some teams were just a last minute slap dash job.
Jun 13, 2012, 6:44 pm
Mseeto,
F-League Series One was fantastic for Australian Futsal Yes.
The Dural Invitational was also fantastic for Australian Futsal, inviting clubs that won their state competition to come and play against each other (essentially what the f-league would become) was good too.
This come and play us for money concept is a farce, translated in the 0 replies you have had! And your insinuating comment ‘interesting there have been no challengers given the result of the poll’ just sums up YOUR attitude, from memory East Coast Heat were leading the poll, why did this irk you so much? BIG DEAL! You have a great club to be proud of. By winning the F-League you can prove how good you are on international courts with international rules and international scrutiny!
I appreciate the back story because I didn’t know how involved you have been throughout the whole process but it doesn’t make your challenge any less silly.
I thought the cross code challenge had some pro’s but a lot of con’s. Futsal is a different sport with similar skill sets allowing some players to play both codes quite well. However I think Futsal has been viewed as Footballs ugly sister for too long. I think Futsal needs to stand up and stand alone. Our national players and coaches need to stand up for Futsal, and choose Futsal over football. Its the only way for the sport to gain credibility, improve in quality, entice sponsors and help Futsal players get paid for offering an exciting alternative.
Well done to Damian Briggs and FNSW I agree, word on the streets of Melbourne was that Chris Ryan did bugger all but flex federation political muscles to hire the court.
You said “I do not believe that Futsal is yet a well recognised sport. That is why Futsal has always struggled with Football being given preference by players of both.”
Futsal is a recognized sport, people know what it is, people know people who play it, some like it some dont, players are choosing Football for financial reasons.
You said “None of the Dural players are paid to play Futsal.” Well there are ways that this can happen but lets discuss that another time.
You said “They do it for the love of it” I agree why else would they play.
You said “a small financial reward should they win a challenge should not be sneered at.” I agree if its money put up by paying spectators, sponsors and other reasonable methods, not by another club gambling, this could open up all whole can of worms, hypothetically Dural receive a controversial penalty in the dying stages to win the game, it creates unnecessary hostility in our sport.
You said” I believe that the more exposure Futsal have, the better for the sport.” I agree but there are other ways to do this.
“It also makes it easier to get sponsorship.” You’ve had all sorts of challenges etc and there still isn’t a dollar for the players, there are other ways to do this! Useful exposure makes sponsorship easier, like Greg on Fox Sports.
You said: “Making personal attacks is okay as I like a good argument but at least have the courage to put your name to those attacks so everyone knows where you are coming from.”
The article was related to the club’s challenge, nothing personal about that. The whole point of FUTSAL RANT is to raise hot topics and discuss them. You wouldn’t/couldn’t be critical of other clubs, FNSW or FFA as Mseeto would you? There are a few people that contribute and collate to FUTSAL RANT.
Jun 13, 2012, 7:19 pm
Futsal rant, your sources of info from Victoria is not the best.
Firstly none of the east coast Melb based players were registered with FFA until a few weeks ago. Inner city as a Mens team does not exist and futsal oz has no working relationship with Ffv. These players are not eligible to represent Vic at the nationals as they are not playing in the mfl. If getting players from multiple states to play in the one team together is the future then bring it on. Maybe the strikers and vipers can year make allegiencies with Adelaide and Perth, get their 5 or 6 best players and ditch the mfl. Who wants to play on a 6:30 on a Saturday night in the middle of winter. Get the drift.
Another question, how would Nsw go in organizing their prem league if it were held in winter. Record number of teams and players you say, I don’t think so.
Jun 13, 2012, 7:30 pm
Ffv clubs have to be endorsed by their fed to play in the f league. Opening up a big can of worms if the Melb clubs create a new entity just to enter the f league. Who endorsed east coast: Ffv?
Jun 13, 2012, 8:49 pm
Ronalso, Fogarty played at Vikings nationals but also played for the Futsalroo’s. Apparently you had to play in a federation approved comp/nationals to play for AUS but those rules are compromised yearly FOR THE GOOD OF THE GAME, Whats your view on that? Do you want the best players representing the country, our country. Or do you want the best registered players? What if, say hypothetically the 10 best Futsal players in Australia were not registered? And never registered? What if you were the coach?
On the topic, what is registration? $$$ that goes straight to the football department? Insurance that venues should already have? If the money went back into the game it wouldn’t be 10 years behind!
I wasn’t aware of the Inner City situation, but what is obvious is that Futsal Oz, like a dozen or so private operators (Super 5 Futsal, Play Futsal, Sunshine Coast Futsal etc) in VIC saw no point sending off cheques and client information to the federation to get a shitty 3cm x 3cm column on a website that nobody views. No support, promotion or assistance in any way shape or form unless you can enlighten us otherwise ronalso?
They’d be better of sending FUTSAL RANT $1 for every player that played futsal and we’d do a lot more then what any member federation (Bar NSW) has done for futsal. It seems to me that people that love futsal have been taken advantage of for too long. Take your money time and effort and spit you out with ZERO appreciation, its happened for years across the country, to fans, sponsors, families.
In regards to the VIC team at nationals, are we going to see less of the side that has played the previous two years and more of a Cobras / Jaguars line up that is going to get thumped?
I dont see what the big deal is in regards to players from other states playing for a team? Dont strikers have Brackenrig? And didnt they have other NSW players in last years F-League? What if Boomerangs use NSW players? Whats the big deal? If its good for the goose its good for the gander. The interstate player whinging sounds like a case of really sour grapes. Boo hoo! Its not nationals, its a national league with CLUBS who can sign players from ANYWHERE!
Who wants to play MFL 630 on a Saturday night! EXACXTLY RIGHT! NOBODY! FEDERATION GENIUS AT ITS BEST. And even if it was at a suitable time, NOBODY wants to play in it because it is CRAP. There is no other politically correct way to put it. The MFL has been CRAP, was CRAP and will always be CRAP. Overpriced, crap locations, crap scheduling and too many passionless suits involved judging by the federations approach to futsal. Just ask the players! I did! It’s a 2 club league at best, the Vipers & Strikers would be better off playing against each other every week.
By the sounds of it VIC’s finest will be better off flying up to NSW, registering with FNSW and playing in the NSWPL. At least its competitive and will give the players a weekly challenge, a chance of improving and mixing it with the best!
Futsal Oz may get under some peoples skin, especially the FFV for whatever reason,but from a RANT point of view they have done a hell of a lot for Futsal. Look at there site, leagues and people involved! That’s what the futsal federation should be doing! VIC owes Futsal Oz for producing a quality league that has unearthed and developed VIC’s finest futsal players which were on show Sat/Sun. Boys from north south east and west australia and flying down like never seen before to get involved. Its no coincidence that the Vipers return to futsal prominence has been through there two championships in the VLEAGUE and look the goods in the F-League. Its no coincidence that VIC clubs have a better pool of talent thanks to the V-league. Its no coincidence that the best futsal league in VIC is run by people who love the game, play the game, support the game!
Jun 13, 2012, 11:18 pm
Fogarty was also registered for west city crusaders in the FNSW Superleague, so FFA registered after all. As few the teams I agree Dural should finish first, although Toby looks to be injured and Greg has outdoor commitments. Vipers wll struggle big time in Sydney and Canberra same with st Albans, both will need a favourable draw away from home. Parramatta and east coast have to many styles in the 1 team and will be hot and cold. Heart and jaguars will finish in the bottom 2. Boomerangs have an exceptionally talented list, fogarty, Fulton, Angelo cattanach all of futsalroo standard. Another 7 or 8 are state first team representatives could throw up a few hurdles when all their players are on deck.
Jun 13, 2012, 11:19 pm
So I gather you support clubs like strikers and vipers to tell the Ffv to jump and take the backdoor option to the f league by creating a new identity. By default NSW football will then be supporting the destruction of the mfl.
Will Nsw futsal endorse them for insurance purposes, sounds like a rebel league almost.
I will give Ffv some credit, they are going head to head with futsal making kids and players choose which sport they want to play. And u didn’t answer my question about what would happen in Nsw if they moved to a winter league.
We did have a summer league 10 years ago called the premier league. And the quality was very good.
As for the Vic team at nationals it will be anyones guess as to who will be in the team. There was some talk of the mfl champion representing Vic, but maybe they were just rumours.
Two Vic teams will finish in the top 3 of the f league this year.
Jun 14, 2012, 12:00 am
Ronalso you remind me of a teachers pet, you’ll do & say anything for browny points.
Jun 14, 2012, 12:04 am
Futsal rant you are not helping the situation by saying “the melb sides are better off flying up to Sydney each week to play innthe nswpl”. You know that is not feasible. Do you want them to fly their junior teams up as well. If they could achieve that they would be bigger and better run than any sporting team in Australia.
Futsal oz has done a greAt job promoting the sport, I lay my hat off to them. They are the only centre that has the power to tell the Ffv to jump. The other centers like futsal plus and super 5s are pure money making centres and that is all they care about, they don’t want to invest in the sport. They are as much of a problem to the sport as Ffv is.
Currently there is still interest in the junior rep selections so some kids play mfl do they can play for the vics. Others play mfl because there is no junior futsal leagues in the area, whilst other academies charge their players ridiculous amounts of money to train twice a week and play every two weeks. Most Mens teams play because they think it is the right thing to do or they don’t feel they have an option to not play.
Another very important point to discuss is the new ffa blueprint for how football will run across all states. The reccinmendations will have major effects on player choice and availability to play futsal.
Jun 14, 2012, 12:13 am
Curious I wasn’t aware I was taking any sides. My wish is to see Futsal prosper, but down here in Victoria, we have to work with what we have been given.
Jun 14, 2012, 2:26 am
this is what the fleague is wanting to be have a look at it its modelled on vleague.
ronolso i wish we had vleague in nsw most players dont care fnsw or not.
Jun 14, 2012, 10:53 am
Curious I just wish Victoria had the V-League on a full size court!
Futsal OZ -If you read these posts – any comment on a full size court? Long term strategy or vision?
Jun 14, 2012, 1:06 pm
dont know, but ive got them on fb, youtube & check out thr wsite seems like they have got some strategy. why dont we have any of these? ok courts small but most of the players r up for it. its not like we are miles infront dont forget they have beaten us both in can & fleague even belting rob 6×1 in a game so lets stop blowing our horn. we r now looking like the ones that r out of date.
Jun 14, 2012, 4:15 pm
Hi Futsal Tragic
Unlike you, who has a job and also gets money out of Futsal, the average age of the Dural players is 21 years. Half are students and others are looking for jobs. It has been a struggle for some to raise the money to pay for the registration and the travel and, in fact, some have still not paid.
You are wrong when you say the Dural players still haven’t made a dollar from the challenges. The players have earned $4,000.00 from the Cross Code challenge and it was a real buzz for some of the younger players who received the money. It was because of the positive feedback from the players that Dural issued the last challenge. This challenge was open to all players registered with FNSW, not just Futsal players.
You said there are ways for the Dural players to be paid to play Futsal but then say “but lets discuss this another time”. I am all ears, as I am sure that all Club officials who have tried to raise money are dying to hear something constructive, practical and realistic from you. Spectator fees are a non starter ( the small number of spectators are mainly family) and every club I know have already approached sponsors with little response. You also said there are other ways to gain more exposure for Futsal rather than the challenge but again do not give any practical or realistic examples. In fact, what have you yourself done to get more exposure for Futsal?
You say that I made an insinuating comment because I was irked that East Coast Heat were leading the poll. If you even thought about that statement you would realise how ridiculous that sounds. I made the comment when the date for the closing of entries was in a few days and I wanted readers to click on the comment, read the challenge and be reminded of the challenge. As 80% of those polled believed that Dural would not win the F League, I was surprised that there were no entries given the odds of 2-1.
You say hypothetically Dural could receive a controversial penalty and this could create unnecessary hostility in our sport. The Socceroos received a controversial penalty in the game against Japan and I have not heard of any unnecessary hostility in Football. Have you?
You say I couldn’t/wouldn’t be critical of other clubs, FNSW or FFA as mseeto. You are right, I prefer to approach them directly and openly, and it may surprise you, most of the time I get a reply, even some in writing. . I do not believe in criticising them anonymously.
Jun 14, 2012, 8:25 pm
I think its disappointing to see the results of Jaguars. Watching them play they are not bad players, but they don’t have enough experienced heads in the team, leading to a lack of intelligence in defence. Hopefully they can pick up a few more experienced players and defend a bit better to stop them getting smashed every round
Jun 15, 2012, 10:12 am
Futsalrant,
For someone that has a high opinion on everything you struggle to get your facts right!
Firstly there is only one Qld Player playing for Melbourne Heart in the F League.
Secondly, Sunshine Coast Futsal Association is located on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland not Victoria as you stated.
Thirdly, Sunshine Coast Futsal Association is affiliated to Football Queensland and FFA so therefore are not a private operator as you suggested.
Jun 16, 2012, 1:23 pm
marky, it seems like vic vipers and st albans players all play in the vleague why doesnt jaguars and heart do the same? or do they?maybe it could help sort out your teams with weekly games? is that an option?
Jun 16, 2012, 2:02 pm
Curious I am surprised you don’t know. Jaguars And cobras owners/operators run their own academies and leagues, and they are in direct opposition to futsal oz with future expansion on the horizon. Vipers and strikers owners/operators have a different inclusive policy and are mainly in the game for the love of it ( money is a bonus) . So that’s why they have been around for a while, their teams have a heart and soul and playets want to play for them. They have been very successful and will no doubt be successful into the future.