Allstars announced for 12 of the age groups at the AFA Nationals
Australian Futsal Association would like to congratulate the following recipients of Allstar awards. These competitors (except New Zealand participants) will receive automatic selection into the Australian Touring Teams.
10 YEAR BOYS – Jack Stewart (NNSW City), Joshua Holden (QLD Metro), Khalid Ali (QLD Metro), Mauricio Amador (Victoria), Bailey Mooney (QLD City)
11 YEAR BOYS – Lachlan Hunter (QLD Metro), Jacob Coombes (QLD City), Jake Hollman (NSW City North), Otto Ingham (Auckland), Jackson Mortimer (NSW Southern)
12 YEAR BOYS – Lachlan Pearson (QLD City), Jayden Balarezo (QLD City), Ben Varvarssos (NSW City North), Ryan Campbell (NSW Central West), Hamish McRae (Victoria)
13 YEAR BOYS – Aaron Taylor (NSW Hunter), Josh De Voogel (Victoria), Dominic Smith (Tasmania), Dane Stokes (QLD City), Jordy Hill (QLD City)
14 YEAR BOYS – Brayden Cook (QLD Country), Josh Young (NSW Southern), Loi Nguyen (QLD City), Matt Sokulsky (NSW Hunter), Hayden Moffatt (QLD City)
15 YEAR BOYS – Brock Mate (NSW Central West), Gabriel Hawash (Far North QLD), Dylan Wenzell-Halls (QLD City), Brandon Cook (NSW City South), Elliot Brown (QLD Metro)
16 YEAR BOYS – Michael Garret (NNSW City), Alexander Tserepas (NNSW City), Chris Scott (QLD City), Derrick Costello (NNSW City), Joseph Genjevski (NNSW City)
12 YEAR GIRLS – Keeley Sullivan (QLD City), Emma Muscat (QLD Country), Esther Ting (NNSW Country), Jasmine Tate Turvey (Tasmania), Katie Muscat (QLD Country)
13 YEAR GIRLS – Ellen Hepburn (QLD City), Leah Scroggie (Far North QLD), Maddy Warren (QLD City), Rikki Hartley (Far North QLD) Maddie Webster (QLD City)
14 GIRLS – Aloise Jenkins (NSW City West), Bianca Galic (NSW City South), Emily Hoffman (QLD Country West), Ally Green (NSW City North), Marissa Kassnpakis (NSW City South)
15 GIRLS – Kacee Pointing (Tasmania), Gemma Terry (Tasmania), Jaimee Crisp (QLD Country West), Kim Cahill (QLD Country West), Talitha Doro (QLD Country West)
16 GIRLS – Bryany Parker (NSW City North), Jaqui Marshall (NSW City South), Kirstyn Oldfield (New Zealand), Lauren Brimelow (QLD City), Courtney Rowse (New Zealand)
49 Comments
Jan 13, 2013, 4:31 pm
To all “national stars” above, please dont be deceived or misled into thinking that you are futsal nationals stars, state representatives or australian representatives. You need to inform yourself of the truth of your ability by comparison to the other futsal players in this country, in particular, those recognised by FFA. Perhaps start by contacting FFA, FNSW or your respective state body, referring to FFA’s letter on this website about AFA and perhaps comments addressing your status as a futsal player. You will be asked to pay your own way and perhaps encouraged to fundraise your own way. Many consider this to constitute an illegal act by misleading and deceptive conduct (arguably fraud) if you or AFA do not clearly explain that you are not true representatives as such every time you hold out as such. Insofar as the 15 boys are concerned you need to accept and respect the fact that you are not the nationals allstars nor near as good as the true nationals champions in this country. Congratulations to the following under 15 boys NSW thunder team undefeated australian champions, Alesssandro Bandiera, Alpay Keskin, Brad Mitchell, Edward Rinaldi, Emilio Manos, Luke pereira, Marino Trimboli, Mathew Mazevski, Micheal Loupis and Connor Irwin.
Jan 13, 2013, 5:58 pm
boring
ok why dont you play each other & put your money were your mouth is?
Jan 13, 2013, 6:46 pm
I agree it is boring but once again the true facts. You cant be serious about playing FAA.. . it is not just simply a matter of showing up. There is an ongoing ethical process amongst the elite of this country to be worthy of selection in the FFA . It is about time you [the AFA] stop your misrepresentations both here and overseas and disrespect those truly worthy of being australian or state representatives and champions. Once again i emphasis that you must stop letting your players and particularly your younger kids and their families believe they have such ability and are worthy of such success under false pretences. It is damaging to this sport in australia and embarressing for us by holding out to the world that your players are the elite of australia. From here formal notification will be given to overseas participants and officials of where AFA and players stand and compare in Australia prior to commencement of each tournament.
Jan 13, 2013, 7:05 pm
both comps are ordinary & expensive so both are not a true reflection!
no cash, no game!
so have a little think about it.
if 50% of players are only attending one comp how can the other say theirs is a true reflection.
your proud nothing wrong with that.
Jan 13, 2013, 7:39 pm
FFA nationals are a joke. It is no longer a matter of how good you are. It is more a matter of who you know and what deals can be done to get you on a state team.
Jan 13, 2013, 7:46 pm
Justchecking, it is very easy to make sweeping generalisations like that.
Where is your proof?
And do not just quote the odd poor selection an coach might have made!
Jan 13, 2013, 7:47 pm
Barca433… I am still shaking my head in amazement at your comments. Most of which contains no reasoned argument and seems to make very little sense,
e.g.:
‘From here formal notification will be given to overseas participants and officials of where AFA and players stand and compare in Australia prior to commencement of each tournament’.
Are you able to explain what you are trying to say here in a comprehensible way?
I am also concerned about your obvious lack of legal knowledge to be accusing people of fraud. Perhaps you need to brush up on the laws of libel and defamation too.
Finally, I find it really sad that you are such a pathetic person as to feel the need to attack kids.
Congratulations to all of those kids who were selected as All Stars and indeed to ALL who competed in both the FFA and AFA Nationals.
Jan 13, 2013, 8:12 pm
Congratulations to all the kids involved!
Well done. You all deserve praise.
Disregard the comments above from nasty invdividuals.
Jan 13, 2013, 9:33 pm
Charise, your comments do not add up: first this particular club is just a “click” but now not being able to get in through their open trials is a “compliment to the club”… Sorry I’m confused!
They do not have the right of reply because they do not know who this “cliky” club is…
Jan 13, 2013, 10:12 pm
@Rob V, your not the only one confused!
Jan 13, 2013, 10:20 pm
It amazies me that some people especially Barca433 want to take away from the kids the acheivement that they have made, through playing in the AFA National Championships and being named in their All Stars. A lot of futsal players were screwed over by the way Football NSW did their selections this year. I spoke with William Tan the day after their State Championships on how the selection process would go, then a few days later they released the criteria, needless to say what I was told a few days earlier was a whole lot of lies and a lot of players I know had no chance of going to the trials as they could not be nominated as they don’t play super or premier league. Here is an excert of what the put out
“Acknowledging that FNSW has at different times at past National Championships been represented by up to two (2) metropolitan teams, a Southern Regional team and Western Regional team, the two (2)teams fielded in 2013 will be true state-wide representative teams.
FNSW is committed to providing opportunities for regional based players within the teams, and shall work with the Regional Coach and Development Managers to identify talented players to trial.”
If someone knows who the Regional Coach and Development Manager is could they please let me know, as other people I speak with have never heard of this person.
Jan 14, 2013, 2:10 pm
barca433 did you even see any of the talent that was at AFA this year? I was at Windsor all week, with much of the talent there could easily compete/beat teams that were at the FFA championships in Canberra. I think you would find most championship winning teams at AFA giving your ‘undefeated Australian Champions’ a real run for their money.
Jan 14, 2013, 2:45 pm
Only one way to find out…
Jan 16, 2013, 12:47 am
And the irony is for it to happen in a formal arena FFA would need to recognize AFA and it’s teams!
Unlikely!
Jan 14, 2013, 2:51 pm
I don’t think there are any claims that these are the best Australian Players by AFA.
They are just announcing their All Stars team from their comp.
No false claims by them or no talking them up. Read the advert properly? Why even debate the kids’ achievements above?
Very petty to criticize the kids playing ability above if you haven’t seen them play.
I went out to the AFA comp for one day and the talent was better this year. Alot of kids have move across from the FFA comp. I think the talent and competition has increased at AFA and DECREASED at FFA consecutively. As a coach said to me last year on his return from the 2012 FFA comp, the skill was dismal in 2012 compared to prior years.
Please don’t take the light of the kid’s performances. That is extremely childish and very cruel.
Jan 14, 2013, 2:53 pm
Rob V, I am confused. You wrote in the wrong thread. No-one here will understand what you are talking about.
None the less, yes the club is good but very clicky and hard to get into. I don’t take anything away from them just saying their selection process could be better with graders actually taking an interest in new kids coming through.
Jan 14, 2013, 3:11 pm
Charise, with all the self centred crap some people write it is quite easy to post in the wrong thread; but the sentiments remain.
You accuse a club of being clicky, state selectors of not looking at players, teams being preselected etc etc but refuse to name names or show anything that backs up your statements.
Jan 16, 2013, 9:32 am
Here we go again, well done Barcar433. These kids deserves what ever titles get allocated to tgem. NSW or AFA competition. Disgusting how you strip them of any glory. Again you are very NSW sided, but how about NSW start by giving EVERYONE a fair chance and it would be a fair competiotion in the NSW Nationals. The talent at Windsor was great with a lot of players who played in the F league playingout there as well. Once NSW get their crap together and do a Nationals titles correctly maybe everyone will be on the same footing inyour eyes. As for Rob V saying you refuse to name names, well this I can do as well, but this is not the time and the place. I HAVE contacted NSW and named the names and given the detais, but in all their power William Tan just does not return emails nor Troy McColl does not return phone calls. I can get lists together of people who also have tried to contact NSW but receive no reply so if they cannot reply to questions why is it and what do they have to hide. Stop taking the shine off awards won by players who truely deserve this and let all players bask in their glory.
Jan 16, 2013, 11:39 am
Hey Fortheloveoffutsal, am I taking the shine of kids’ achievements? I have not bought into that nobody-can-win-it argument.
Try using a full stop or something when you are giving your opinion on someone else’s statements and make sure you address the correct person if you don’t mind…
By the way, have you tried Phil Brown at FNSW? And it is not NSW running the Nationals, just semantics but it would show that at least you have the details right…
Out of curiosity Fortheloveoffutsal, what makes someone a talented futsal player?
Jan 16, 2013, 11:52 am
Rob, I think speed, fast mind, brilliant ball control, sharp passing, rotation and runs and accurate shooting. A lot of outdoor players ar awful at futsal. Sharp mind and a team player are vital. No athletes or runners needed . Speed of thought first.
Jan 16, 2013, 1:25 pm
Charise can you please do us all a favour and go back into whole u came out off. ur constant dribble is becoming irritating. You want speed but you dont want athletes or runners? What kind of speed would you like? U need accurate shooting to be a good futsal player ? You need good shooting to be any type of football player.
Jan 16, 2013, 2:46 pm
Not if your primarily a defenseve player ? or a Keeper ! Not everyone can be a goalscoring hero !
It’s OK Charise, the rest of know what you mean…
Jan 16, 2013, 12:57 pm
charise I know of one coach who picked the team on form at the titles and parents wanting to kill him because there kid has always been picked. as rob could answer better don’t forget it is also the coach people look at if the team does not perform, so it is in there best interest to pick the best team.
Jan 16, 2013, 1:40 pm
Barca your a deadset clown! Considering your in the business of putting kids down for their achievements you put your thinking cap on and be honest with yourself and say
1. Are these 10 kids the best players for their age playing futsal in their state
2. How many of these kids played in the 14s national winning team last year
3. How many teams were in this so called best nationals in your age group this year ?
Jan 16, 2013, 1:49 pm
No I have not contacted Phil Brown as it was both William who said in email “Contact if you have any questions – now three times and no reply, and when I did voice my opiniont Troy after he emailed me was told by Troy himself he would ring me but still doesnt happen. I know for a fact that NSW does not bother to contact most queries back if they are of a negative basis as from a lot of past experiences. All I am saying is a governing body want sto be transperant give everyone ALL the details.
Jan 16, 2013, 1:56 pm
I can vouch too that FNSW don’t get back to you. They don’t want to deal with any issues.
The only time they haven’t gotten back to me is about payment for the state titles!
Jan 16, 2013, 2:13 pm
Futsal Nationals, whatever organisation your with, has always focused on getting as many teams/players as possible. This has been as much a financial decision as a sport development one. AFA are continuing on this course of multiple regional teams from each of the states, FFA are trying to move to a more elitist, professional approach of 1 team per state . I think if we hope to grow into a professional highly respected sport maybe we need to change this attitude.
I will go on record as saying I support the 1 team per state concept, best of the best. State jerseys have lost all value now days, they have been handed out so freely over the years that they are no longer hold any meaning. Lets put some pride and meaning back into wearing a state jersey.
Does this mean that AFA approach is wrong and should be stopped ? No. There will always be a place for the all inclusive “quantity over quality” approach (and I don’t mean that in a disrectful way) because there is an over supply of talented players who will fall by the wayside in ANY elite program. There will always be more qualified players than there are spaces at a state, or indeed any, level. Not everyone that is worthy will get selected. This happens in all sports. How many top NRL players never get to play State Of Origin because theres just to many good players around. Frustrating, but a fact of life we just have to deal with and get on with life.
Maybe we need to change our thinking on all our tournaments, so I’ll throw this up for discussion.
Split the state and metro area up into regions. The split can be done anyway you want, doesn’t have to be along the same boundaries as current outdoor if thats what anyone is worried about.
Ressurect the “Regional Titles” in each of the above zones. This gives the local teams a chance to pit themselves against other local teams without being hammered like they are at the current state titles. Lets be honest the state titles have basically become just another weekend tournament for Premier League and State League clubs. Very few local teams enter unless they are made up of former rep players who want to get together with old mates & relive the glory days. Local teams have very little opportunity outside their local centre. Regional Rep sides are then selected from each of these regional championships. example : Sutherland, Sth Coast, North, South, East, West, Central Coast etc.
State Title – Regional Rep sides not local teams or SL/PL teams. Teams selected from each of the above regions would compete at the state titles. You would expect these teams to be composite teams made up of mostly SL/PL players from elite clubs within the region but also any good local players that stand out in the regionals.
Nationals – should then be best of the best STATE Reps, not regional teams. Ideally 1 team from each state. Maybe NNSW (and FNQ ?) get an exception as they are recognised asc a seperate association to FNSW. Thes teams should be selected from the State Titles ONLY. If players are not committed enough to go through the selection process they shouldn’t be considered for state team selection. (just my opinion).
Any change brings uncertainty and takes time. It maybe that the intitial boundary split is Metro Nth, Sth, East & West but as time goes by and the spoort continues to grow we can split these regions down even further. We have to continually evolve and adapt as we grow.
I often hear comments that we are “not outdoor soccer” and thats right, we’re not, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t follow some of the same systems and procedures as they have. Sports like soccer, netball, basketball all use a similar structure to the above and it works so …..?
Won’t solve all the problems of biased selctions etc but at least it will create a logical structured pathway, its then up to us individuals to make it work.
Jan 16, 2013, 2:18 pm
Offside, Rob asked the question and I gave my opinion. I don’t care what you think. That is what I think makes a good player. If you read my post, you will see the speed I am talking about is not athletic speed BUT SPEED OF THOUGHT – thinking and making decisions fast!
Jan 16, 2013, 4:56 pm
phil once again good post. the 1 team 1 state while in theory is a good idea the problem will always be that until the other states get up to speed with quality comps. nsw need to supply 2 teams for ffa as in some grades these provide the most competive games when they meet
Jan 16, 2013, 6:59 pm
Having just read replies it seems my comments have caused a bit of stir. I maintain my unyielding stance on the issues raised. However, replies made by woodro, breakers123, charise, not happy and fortheloveoffutsal should be of serious concern.
It is better to deserve honours and not have them than to have them and not deserve them, particularly at the expense of kids.
Praise must be sincere and should reflect the amount of effort the child puts in. When praise is meaningless and “over the top”, it loses its effectiveness. By telling the AFA kids or its players they are the best in Australia, expressly of implicitly, you are simply praising the wrong things. You are praising the players intelligence or talents thinking you are giving the player confidence and faith in their abilities ” Look what you did–you’re so good at this… you are a national star…” Your purported praise is harmful for as soon as these players might encounter real competition that confidence evaporates and becomes discouraging in the face of adversity.
Perhaps I should start a nationals futsal comp, have my grandfather show up for trial, he may just be selected to play in the nationals and even as a national allstar to represent Australia in spain for the open mens. Oh of course, let all his family and friends think that he made the Australian team, hold a fundraiser event “please donate ….selected for Australia team…raising funds to represent australia in spain…”. Of course I would be pathetic not to praise him “…grandpa congratulations on making the australian squad… you are the best in Australia” Futsalroos..who are they?? FFA recognized representatives…who are they??
As I have said, unequivocally, it is damaging to futsal both present and future for AFA to hold out whether expressly or impliedly to innocent Australians, Australian futsal players and all associated with futsal and to the world that they are the benchmark of futsal. Clearly, they are not and the general standard at the recent AFA nationals was substandard, based on feedback from some of the parents whose kids did not make FFA national teams and 2 coaches responses. Anyone who does not agree with this is very much out of touch with futsal.
Offside, you raise an interesting perspective by drawing a comparison to last years team. I agree the under 14’s NSW thunder squad was a great team indeed. Such comparison was entertained by many on and off the sideline this year. Two very senior mentors at the higher end of the futsal heirchary came to watch at least 2 games that I know of including the grand final with a keen eye on 2 players they described as future futsalroos with world class potential. Overall the inference drawn is that this years NSW squad were slightly better and displayed more technical ability. It has to be said that the only real competition is NSW and ACT in the 15s age group, that is to say, based on last year and this years performances. Whilst it was nice to play other teams, if the truth be known, Queensland metro and all regional teams were really just training cones for the NSW thunder squad. The under 14s NSW lightning squad I think beat every team last year including Vic, except for ACT NSW Thunder. ACT were eventually beaten in the final by u14s NSW thunder squad. This year however, that same ACT squad was beaten even more convincingly by NSW thunder this year, 3 out of 3 games.
Charise and just checking, im sorry but its rubbish about networking in order to have your kids play in representative squads. Either they are or are not good enough, as simple as that. But of course you will not accept this. If you haven’t already, might I suggest that you have your kids trial at a tale end super league club.
Phil Dolton, your proposed structure sounds good but you are being too diplomatic in saying there is an over supply of good futsal players, at least of international standard, which is where our focus should be. There are very few good futsal players of such quality coming thru the ranks. We need to identify and nurture the young special ones NOW with ongoing elite training amongst senior and talented players and ideally trained by overseas coaches. Otherwise we will lose them to outdoor football and or overseas.
Jan 22, 2013, 9:28 pm
Barca443
Jan 22, 2013, 10:24 pm
Norbit you have just made yourself out to be a Nob. Firstly, i unequivically maintain what i said avbout AFA and it is apparent you do not understand or are not reading my comments properly.
Further, your facts are wrong. 5 lightning players not 7. Moreover, the very same ACT squad (except 2 players) who thunder beat in the final last year, this years squad beat convincingly 3 times. So it is a fact your opinion is not based on facts you loser !!!
Jan 23, 2013, 6:11 am
But at the end of the day half the team was beat by last years thunder two of your better players were playing for thunder last year so don’t sit there and say this team was better than last years
Jan 23, 2013, 9:13 am
Norbit last year is becoming a distant memory. Sorry it pains you but thats exactly what i and many are saying, and not because of last years thunder players in the squad but because of new additions to this years thunder. As mentioned in my previous post overall the inference drawn is that this years NSW squad were slightly better and displayed more technical ability. Even some of last years thunder parents and players might tell you too that some players should not have been in last years thunder squad.
Jan 23, 2013, 11:29 am
” slightly better and more tecnical” hahaha that is a massive call to say The least considering there were players like alysain to name one in last years side but hey if u feel you need to promote your kids in comments bagging out other kids u are a bigger tool than I thought !
Jan 23, 2013, 11:52 am
@norbit
A lot can change in a year, most of the thunder teams were very different teams to last year as is often the case most years. Comparing the team lists from this year’s and last year’s tournament programs the 16 boys had 6 changes, 15 boys had 8 changes, 14 boys had 5 changes, 14 girls had 6 changes, 12 girls had 7 changes, youth men was practically an entirely new team even though most were still age eligible. They also had different coaches yet they all still won the title again and with similar results.
Unfortunately some parents and players seem to think that once they are picked in a Thunder team they will be in that top 10 players year after year but it just doesn’t work like that.
Jan 23, 2013, 12:01 pm
This whole gibberish has been brought to my attention overnight.
Barca 433 (Id love to know who you really are, so I know who I’m dealing with rather than an alias) .
I am last seasons Thunder coach and to be totally frank with you I find it un-necessary for you to even bring my Thunder team even into this equation. Last seasons Thunder accomplishments will never be a distant memory to us that were involved in it.
The Qtr final victory when we were 5-0 down to Victoria who had previously won the age group 3 consecutive years which we went onto win 8-5 was one of the greatest ever games Ive ever witnessed, and Ive coaches at nationals for 11 years and seen many hundred games.
Last season Thunder side was one of the most technically gifted teams to ever grace Canberra.
If this seasons Thunder team is as good then thats all well and good.
But to say that this seasons one is better is a huge statement to make.
As for team selections, what many people fail to realise and that includes many coaches involved at Nationals is that BALANCE is way more important to a side than TALENT when a side is selected. Last seasons side was balanced perfectly. We had skill, we had toughness, we had defensive minded players, we had quickness, we had rhythm, we had futsal smarts, we had everything that was needed to be the first NSW side to ever win that age group. It was mission accomplished.
There wasnt one player in that side that I would swap for any other player.
Im not going to sit here and bad mouth nor comment or compare about the members of this years Thunders team in comparison to last years team as its not necessary. Congratulations to this years coach Sam Smith and the entire Thunder team on their achievements this year and backing up our win from last season. Great to see NSW make it back to back victories. Just keep in mind that players in last seasons team are now aware of this and remember you’re dealing with kids.
Cheers Matteo
Jan 23, 2013, 4:38 pm
@ dingo I could not agree more with what you are saying most teams do change but out of all those changes how many players were dropped and how many did not attend ! I’m sure you will find they didn’t attend. which leaves me with doubt about credibility of the FFA nationals so for Barca 433 to question credibility of AFA nationals makes me laugh . Full credit to the thunder side from this year they obviously were the best team at “this” years nationals
Jan 23, 2013, 5:17 pm
Matteo you may be better served to carefully read all comments as you’ll find the only persons who initiated and or have chosen to bring last years u14s thunder team into the equation in an inflammatory manner were offside (who Im guessing was born offside) and norbitt (clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed).
I hold true to my reply that last years u14 thunder team was a great team and long with that simply recited the opinions of others on the sideline who witnessed both nationals or otherwise able to draw the comparison between the teams.
However, your comments do not fall on deaf ears but we need to respectfully bear in mind
- that I believe lightening also beat victoria and for the whole duration of the game lightning remained ahead. But I stand to be corrected if I am wrong here
- the wise words by Dingos latest comment. In this regard, I have to assume norbitt’s been living under a rock for the past year to compare an individual from last year to this years individuals.
- balance yes important, but certainly not more than talent and not at the expense of talented players. With the exception of toughness a talented futsal player should have all the attributes you described. Toughness played a lesser role this year as it does as boys kids get older.
- the ACT side this year were apparently a stronger squad than last year in the opinion of the ACT parents.
Jan 23, 2013, 6:09 pm
Hey if I been living under a rock please correct me and tell me how many of last years thunder side trailed and In your PROFESSIONAL opinion how many would not have made it ? I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I think you my friend got lost on the way there ! And also who gives you the right to say that the AFA state Allstars arnt the best team in the state
Jan 23, 2013, 9:39 pm
Barca you have made numerous comments stating that you and others agree that this years Thunder team was better and more a technical group then last years. Which is fine as everyone is entitled to their opinion.
But there are some of the most talented and technical players in the state that were playing in my team last year that didnt play in this years team so its quite a statement to make. But once again each to their own.
With all due respect and this is just IMO, I will take a balanced side over a team of superstars any day of the week in any tournament. I agree it sure is a fine balancing act. I had this same conversation with someone I hold in very high regard as a coach that being former national team coach Scott Gilligan. I coached a team which was balanced perfectly but left a few players who Scott and I both agreed were more “talented” out of a thunder side who were selected for Lightning but my Thunder team still won the Championships. The argument is there for both sides but I’m 3-0 picking balance over squad of superstars. Not saying you’re wrong. But if the results are there then who can argue…..
Lets be honest though there are a number of boys in my last seasons Thunder team that would walk into any NSW side and wouldve made this years Thunder side with their eyes closed if they had trialled but for whatever reason decided they could not/would not trial this year.
Regardless of how last seasons Lightning went against Victoria that doesn’t really matter.
Our Thunder side won the tournament undefeated playing 9 games and quite comfortably defeated the Lightning side throughout the competition whist the Lightning team didnt even make the final.
Look in the end which ever team is better doesnt really matter. Both teams had a job to do and both did it.
I just think that there shouldn’t be a comparison made as which team was better and which team wasnt.
Jan 23, 2013, 9:45 pm
BARCA433 i saw both teams and the team your son was in this year goes no where near as good as last years team. Its pretty dumb for u to come on here and say ur sons teams a better side when as u say it has 5 players that played for last years lightning team that got pumped by 2012 Thunder and now u have 2 boys from that Thunder team…. How about you all relax Matteo get your team, BARCA433 organise your team and lets get it on. The 2 kids who played 4 thunder twice can play half games each. What u say????
Jan 23, 2013, 9:54 pm
Offside thanks for the offer but I’m not about to have a sword fight to see whos is bigger and better.
The disappointing thing is regardless of whos team is better it shouldnt have been written on here where kids can read it. The people that are being spoken about are 13 and 14 year old kids.
Last season the two sides Thunder and Lightning got on pretty well which isn’t always the case in Canberra. Neil Glass (last seasons lightning coach) and I got on really well…..
Its obvious that Barca and I differ on many things on here but that’s life.
I might just have to come out of Nationals retirement next year ;-p
I’m not going to comment on this topic anymore and I will end in saying congratulations once again to this years Thunder side on winning Nationals.
Jan 23, 2013, 11:04 pm
Matteo no argument from me i respect your rationale take on things once again. No doubt words of wisdom spoken from what could only be extensive experience.
Offside, I assume by “…pumped…” you meant out-muscled the lightning side. But would it be as effective one year later against an older silky thunder side ? I was about to ask if you are a betting man however matteo has justifiably said no show.
In any event might I suggest a natural remedy to help you sleep at night- the Bach Flower Honeysuckle can help people live in the present and assist them to view the past as a valuable experience, rather than letting their past overpower and distort the present.
Jan 23, 2013, 11:37 pm
norbitt – c’mon now you’re delusional. Its one thing to be debating between the quality of NSW FFA teams…but to say “..who gives you the right to say AFA state Allstars arnt the best team in the state..”
If you can’t swallow the facts then eat the fiction. Up until now and perhaps longer you may get away with fooling grandma and grandpa by saying that little johnny is the best and representing australia or nsw cause he plays for AFA.
Jan 24, 2013, 10:04 am
Just wondering Barca how many of these AFA kids selected do you know ????? For u to be saying their not at the same standard
Jan 24, 2013, 3:04 pm
how embarrassing ridiculing 14/15 year old kids….. are you serious……….
regardless of anything./../
the kids who played in ffa are the best in their tournament.
the kids who played in afa are the best in theirs, so they are rightfully acknowledged as allstars in their tournament.
as for australian teams… why take that honour away?? it is the only available team for kids so if they make it they deserve the credit right???
if you say the allstars are a joke then so to are the ones that were given aussie jerseys to celebrate their allstarsness… at ffa… the women and youth their.. the best in australia??? hmmmm not sure you would win that one.. but again in their own right at their own tournament they deserved it….
geezzzz as for the 15 boys argument,… enough…. they are both champions in their own respect.
Jan 24, 2013, 11:11 pm
I think FUTSAL OZ should consider a Junior FAFL cup? same as the men and women? or maybe its to hard?
Jan 25, 2013, 9:55 am
so if futsal oz run a junior tournament…. arent they then running the sport? surely could then do without ffa and the state bodies?
its great by futsal oz what they are doing, so is this not the way to go? independant organisations seem to do a better job right………………..